4.2.2008
By K.T.Rajasingham
JVP
Stood for Equality in the Proper Sense
Somawansa
Amerasinghe analysed JVP’s stand on equality before
the law. He stated “I am not blaming only the Colonial
rulers. I am blaming all the leaders, Sinhalese, Tamil
and Muslims who led the country after 1948. They formed
the Ceylon National Congress in 1919, if I remember correctly;
they could not carry on with that great effort after 1921,
due to mistakes made by everyone. I am not only blaming
Colonial rulers alone, I am blaming Sri Lankans leaders
from among the Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims Burgers.
Yesterday,
Somawansa Amerasinghe , Leader of the JVP mentioned why
they considered the 13th Amendment, Referendum and the
Provincial Council illegal.
The
second installment of the interview is given below:
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : When we are talking about abolition of provincial
council it is nothing but removal of 13th Amendment.
K.T.Rajasingham:
But provincial council came into existence for the first
time by a provincial council Act No. 42 0f 1987?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Ok but under the 13th Amendment.
K.T.Rajasingham:
But it is different, when you say you are going to abolish
provincial councils. Are you abrogating or repealing the
Act that brought in the provincial council?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe: You see, please read 1.3, 13th Amendment
…. It resulted in the 13th Amendment and we are
challenging that. 13th Amendment was brought to the Parliament
to establish the Provincial Councils and for nothing else.
1.3
The 13th Amendment to the 1978 Constitution was enacted
following the Indo Sri Lanka Agreement of July 1987. It
resulted in the setting up of Provincial Councils throughout
Sri Lanka and it devolved power to the Provinces under
the unitary Constitution. The powers devolved fall under
a Provincial List and a Concurrent List. All other powers
were reserved for the Centre through a Reserved List.
Further, any subject or function not included in any of
the three Lists will also be deemed to be a subject or
function in the Reserved List.
K.T.Rajasingham:
And also for the official language Act, the 13th Amendment
brought in ‘Tamil shall also be an official language’
of the country?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : So it was a degradation of the Tamil language.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Earlier Tamil was not an official language?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Even now it is not the official language.
Even Sinhalese is not an official language. You need not
talk about Tamil; Tamil has never been an official language,
English is the official language of Sri Lanka.
K.T.Rajasingham:
We will go to the next Clause 1.4, do you have to say
anything?
1.4
Implementation of subjects and functions devolved on the
Provinces through the Concurrent List has not taken place
at all due to the fact most of these subjects and functions
were retained by the Centre as if they also belonged to
the Reserved List.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : We are against it because India violated
our sovereignty. India imposed this 13th Amendment that
is the truth, if you read the book written by Dixit, you
can see very well how he has done that. I am talking with
some authority; we had some discussion with him during
that time. We held discussion with him number of times,
even under proscription we met them. At that time one
of the political secretaries of the High Commission was
residing in front J R Jayewardene’s house. I went
there to see him and said do not to make a terrible mistake,
a strategic political mistake.
K.T.Rajasingham:
I think at that time Mr. Puri was the political secretary
of the Indian High Commission in Sri Lanka?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : No, I don’t want to mention names.
K.T.Rajasingham:
He was the political secretary of the Indian High Commission
at that time?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : I don’t like to mention manes and
say whether you are correct or not. These are diplomatic
matters. I don’t divulge names. During the last
21 years it has been proved very well that provincial
council was not the solution and it will not be a solution.
In politics it has escalated matters.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Now, we will come to your solution?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe: I think there are so many other things to
say about the proposals.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Yes, go ahead Sir.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Yes that was the beginning of a constitutional
cover for a so called traditional homeland of one community,
ignoring the fact that people belonging to all communities
lived in that two provinces for centuries and it was a
terrible, terrible mistake to encouraged the separatist
forces in Sri Lanka.
K.T.Rajasingham:
But I want to ask you another question, if you say that
13th Amendments was unconstitutional, Tamils are saying
that even the 1972 Republican Constitution was unconstitutional?
1972 Republican Constitution was unconstitutional?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : You say 1972 constitution was unconstitutional?
K.T.Rajasingham:
Yes, because you know the 19th article in the constitution
of Ceylon was an entrenched one, you can’t remove
the 19th entrenched Article of the constitution?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Ok, let them say that.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Have you not gone into that subject?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : That is not an excuse for anyone to fight
for separation or for separate state.
K.T.Rajasingham:
I am not asking you about separatism, from 1948 up to
the day 1972 constitution was promulgated, there was no
cry for separatism. The Ilankkai Tamil Arasu Katcchhi
led by S.J.V.Chelvanayakam was only asking for a Federal
set up that was all he was asking for, the question of
separatism or separate country never arose. It arose only
after 1972?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : According to our studies Tamil Arasu Katchchi
which was called Federal party, but the real name of the
party is the Tamil State Party.
K.T.Rajasingham:
But it is unfortunate that you have left out the most
important part of the name, it says Ilankkai Tamil Arasu
Katchchi, it never says Tamil Eealam or anything, but
it says Ilankkai Tamil Arasu Katchchi, denoting a state
(a federal state – the unit of devolution) within
Ceylon (Sri Lanka).
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Why do you want to say Ilankkai Tamil Arasu
Katchchi?
K.T.Rajasingham:
At that time there was Ilankkai Tamil Congress led by
G.G. Ponampalam and he quit that party and started a new
party in 1950 and called it as Ilankkai Tamil Arasu Katchchi.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : What we want him to say is this, he would
have been correct and you would have been with him, if
he said that I am fighting for equal opportunity before
the law. That would have been the correct slogan.
K.T.Rajasingham:
You started your fight in 1971 and it took so many years
to come up with this statement and you should have fought
for equality. At the earliest stages I think in the early
1950s Chelvanayagam came up with the party called Ilankkai
Tamil Arasu Katchchi. In 1950s no one even dreamed of
having a separate state. They named the party Ilankkai
Tamil Arasu Katchchi they wanted to give prominence to
the Tamil cause it does not mean that they were aiming
for a separate state as even Bandaranaike had organized
the SLFP and stated the need for the importance of Sinhalese
ethnicity and Buddhist religion.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : What I say is we are against giving prominence
to Sinhalese, or Tamil or Muslims. Give them equal status.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Even now 22 members in the Parliament belongi to the Ilankkai
Tamil Arasu Katchchi.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : No, they are TNA (Tamil National Alliance)
people.
K.T.Rajasingham:
No, no they contested on the Ilankkai Tamil Arasu Katchchi
ticket.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe: They must have used the name but they were
selected by the LTTE and not elected by the people.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Selected by the LTTE, even today they represent the Ilankkai
Tamil Arasu Katchchi.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe: Ok they must be. Alright, that is what they
say. We say they are representing TNA and they were elected
because they are connected to this party and selected
by LTTE and not by the Tamil people. They are not representing
the Tamil people.
K.T.Rajasingham:
I never said that they are representing the Tamil people.
I said even Election Commission said that they legally
contested elections as members of Ilankkai Tamil Arasu
Katchchi and elected to the Parliament.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : We don’t accept that they contested
the elections. They did not contested the election they
were selected by the LTTE there was no election there.
So no question of contesting there. That does not arise.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Ok, Sir now we will come to our subject.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Ok, then Tamil Eelam and Sinhala Sri Lanka
, please state this clearly, your question is how best
to give prominence to Tamil people, my answer …
we are against giving prominence to Sinhala, Tamil or
Muslim people or Burgers or Malays in this country. Every
one is equal before the Law.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Have you ever call yourself a Sri Lankan?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe: Yes.
K.T.Rajasingham:
In down south no one calls themselves as Sri Lankans.
They call themselves as Sinhalese or as Sinhalese Buddhists.
In the North they call themselves as Tamils?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe: That is, also a mistake you know? That itself
shows that we are not united.
K.T.Rajasingham:
There is no national integration?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Yes, there was no national integration.
Exactly. I completely agree with you, because we were
made enemies by the colonial rulers. That was the beginning
of the problem.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Ok Sir, you can blame the colonial rulers, that they adopted
a ndivide and rule policy?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : I am not blaming only the Colonial rulers.
I am blaming all the leaders, Sinhalese, Tamil and Muslims
who led the country after 1948. They formed the Ceylon
National Congress in 1919, if I remember correctly; they
could not carry on with that great effort after 1921,
due to mistakes made by everyone. I am not only blaming
Colonial rulers I am blaming Sri Lankans leaders from
the community, Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims, Burgers.
The
merger of North and East was done under emergency only
for one year. It was illegal for the Government to leave
the merge until 2007, until we challenged that in the
Court of Law.
Now
they said that they will create an interim Administration,
a political appointments, President is required to appoint
an entity (Clause No: 3) due to the condition in Northern
province (Clause No: 3.2). We say you can’t do that;
Number one question is to defeat terrorism and simultaneously
restore democracy. To restore democracy. At least now
they are able to have elections in the Eastern province,
the local Government elections, then provincial council
elections could be held and then the general election
if they need.
3.
Special Arrangements necessary to permit Maximum Devolution
of Powers to the Northern and Eastern Provinces under
the 13th Amendment
3.2
Conditions in the Northern Province are far from being
peaceful. A free and fair election in the North will not
be possible in the near future. Hence an alternative arrangement
is required in the Northern Province to enable the people
of that Province to enjoy the fruits of devolution.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Yes, they are doing it now.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe: Tomorrow it will be peaceful and it must
be made peaceful. That is why the military operations
are there to defeat the terrorists. That could be done.
If you accept this clause that means the legitimate army
the security forces are unable to establish peace, establish
democracy, and restore democracy in that Northern Province,
if we accept this.
K.T.Rajasingham:
The way you say is hypothetical, that if we accept this
position.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe: Yes, we can’t accept this position,
because it can be defeated. This terrorist organization
can be defeated and that has been manifested very well
now. So one must have courage to expedite that process.
K.T.Rajasingham:
You say that you wanted to defeat the Liberation Tigers
of Tamil Eealam(LTTE) whom you claim as ‘terrorists’
, but they claim that they represent the Tamils and we
don’t know how the Tamils feel, whether they accept
the leadership of the LTTE or whether they accept the
leadership of the Sri Lanka Government, there was no attempt
made to gauge or to find out the mentality of the Tamil
people?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Mr.Rajasingham, in that case we have to
accept the position that the Sri Lanka Government and
the LTTE must share power there in that case.
K.T.Rajasingham:
No, no what I am trying to say is that Sri Lanka Government
should be the 'Sovereign Government', they must be the
authority who should administer the whole of Sri Lanka
and there can’t be pockets ruled by anyone else.
Then there is no sovereignty, this is the position.
The
actual position was that Sri Lanka government has sent
in its army to fight the so called terrorists, but unfortunately
they have not made any attempt to find out what the Tamils
wanted? All these years the successive governments of
Sri Lanka were under the impression that LTTE and Tamils
are one. They never separated and said that LTTE is LTTE
and Tamils are different.
Tamils
are an ethnic group, no one viewed in that respect and
nobody asked what the Tamils wanted? If there were some
leaders who spoke on behalf of the Tamils, they were killed;
nearly 37 elected members of parliament including a few
Sinhalese members were killed by LTTE. Started with Alfred
Dhuraiyappa, and last one to be killed was T.Maheswaran
MP on 01 January 2008, so the blame has to be placed squarely
on the successive Sri Lankan Government?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Yes we are not going to absolve them, we
are blaming the Sri Lankan Government also. For not establishing
equal opportunity and equality before the Law.
K.T.Rajasingham:
For your information, I was also for sometime member of
the Sri Lanka Freedom party.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : I did not know this information about you
earlier!!
K.T.Rajasingham:
Before joining the SLFP in 1967, I never supported any
political party, when I joined the Sri Lanka Freedom Party,
I was subsequently made the party’s organizer for
sometime. After leaving the party I never joined any other
party in my life, so far. The thing is this, while I was
a member I urged Madam Srimavo Bandaranayke, to set up
a National Integration Commission.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Exactly, these are found in our literatures
which we have produced during the last 42 years. From
the very beginning we have been fighting for the right
of everyone in the country.
K.T.Rajasingham:
In my proposal for the National Integration Commission,
I insisted that everybody should be treated as Sri Lankans.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Yes, without national integration we are
not going to achieve anything.
K.T.Rajasingham:
There should be also a committee to go into discriminations
by the Government and Government officials in this country.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Exactly.
K.T.Rajasingham:
This is what I was advocating during those days.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Exactly, please refer to our literature.
K.T.Rajasingham:
This was one of the reasons why I then left the Sri Lanka
Freedom Party in 1975.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : To clarify our position, we always stood
for equality of the people before the law and equal opportunity
for the Tamils, for Sinhalese, for Muslims and for all
the other communities in the country. We are the only
political party that talks about national assimilation.
K.T.Rajasingham:
National assimilation is something and we should use the
word national integration. To assimilate mean we assimilate
Tamils into Sinhalese?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : No, it can be on the other way round also.
K.T.Rajasingham:
Sinhalese into Tamil?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Yes, it is happening in the country. I saw
it with my own eyes. I served in other part of the country
those days. In Nilavelli, which was earlier a strong hold
of LTTE, I worked there. I saw how the Tamils were married
to Sinhalese and Sinhalese were married to Tamils and
how they change their names. Sudhu Banda was registered
as Sudhu Vandhaiyah, he became a Tamil after marrying
a Tamil woman. I have never heard a name like that in
my life before, that is why I called him to my quarters
when I was there. I asked him what this name is. Tell
me what is this name? I thought he is a Tamil, and with
my poor Tamil I asked him Ithu unkaudaya pera? I asked
him whether your name is Sudhu Vandhaiyah? He said ‘I
am a Sinhalese and I am Sudhu Banda, I am married to a
Tamil woman and became Sudhu Vandhaiyah just like Kandaiyah.‘
K.T.Rajasingham:
Similarly in Wayamba in Puttalam, Chillaw and Neegambo
area the people over there are almost more than 60% of
them are Tamils but they have registered themselves as
Tamil speaking Sinhalese.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Exactly, these are natural processes and
no one should impose anything. No one should force it
to assimilate. Assimilation is natural, so let it happen
in both ways. Let it happen naturally. I am talking about
assimilation because you passed national integration and
then will arrive at national assimilation. That is the
end of the process. At the beginning there should be a
process for national integration, I fully agree with you.
K.T.Rajasingham:
I am still of the opinion that the Government must set
up a national integration commission?
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : Exactly, there must be a commission to defeat
all the communalism in this country.
K.T.Rajasingham:
After 1948 – after the independence of Sri Lanka,
the independence day was never celebrated in the Jaffna
peninsula. It has been put in the minds and hearts Tamil
people that they did not receive the independence and
it was only the Sinhalese who received the independence.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : > Sinhalese even did not receive the
independence.
K.T.Rajasingham:
For the simple reason, right from the beginning the day
when Legislative and Executive Councils were set up after
1833, they had members representing the Tamils and they
had a member for up country Sinhalese, a member for low
country Karava Sinhalese, Muslims, Burghers and the plantation
Tamils of the up country, separately. The ethnicity was
given an important place. And we all thought only of Tamil
nationals, Sinhalese national and Muslim nationals and
we never thought ourselves as Sri Lankans.
Somawansa
Amerasinghe : That is why we blame our leaders.
Courtesy - Asian
Tribune